By Norm Frauenheim-
Nobody needs to announce “let’s get ready to negotiate’’ before Saturday’s Carlos Takam-Anthony Joshua fight in the UK and the Bermane Stiverne-Deontay Wilder follow-up on Nov. 4 in Brooklyn.
Talks – and the talking – for a Joshua-Wilder showdown are already underway with the kind of edgy trash that always says a biggie is on the table.
Still, the heavyweight bouts on back-to-back Saturdays can propel the negotiations, or even knock them off the table altogether.
The latter appears unlikely. Neither Joshua nor Wilder looks as though they are facing much difficulty against late subs for the original opponents – Takam for a Kubrat Pulev out with an injury and Stiverne for a Luis Ortiz disqualified for a positive PED test.
Still, upset is always a looming threat in the wake of a sudden shuffle in opponents. The fear is that the respective belt holders – in this case Joshua and Wilder – will suffer an emotional letdown and left without little in the way of motivation. After weeks of training for what one foe does, each suddenly has to shift focus. For the unwary, that can lead to an unprepared fighter.
Meanwhile, for the sub, there’s always an advantage. It’s a cliché to say that they have nothing to lose. But it’s a cliché because it has been exactly the reason for so many of history’s upsets.
Don’t bet on history repeating itself. But don’t blame promoters or even fans for fretting about an upset that could be bad for business. Yep, Lou DiBella, promoter for the the Wilder-Stiverne rematch at Barclays Center, is nervous. Sure, he can be accused of trying to insert some suspense into a fight that doesn’t appear to have much. He’s got to sell tickets and the Showtime telecast, after all.
In Wilder, however, he also has a fighter who isn’t exactly happy about the business or his career, which has gone sideways twice because positive drug tests. Wilder, who is likable because he’s genuine, openly wondered during a conference call Tuesday about whether he would be “better off” doing something else. He said he’d retire if he loses to Stiverne, whom he beat in a 2015 decision.
“It just saddens me,’’ Wilder said. “Man, it just saddens me. It makes me reevaluate my career. It almost made me lose the love of boxing for a little bit as well, too, because of certain things and activities that has been known in this sport with these guys avoiding or wanting to get on bad substances when they know they’re not supposed to be taking it in the first place.
“That’s the thing about it. You take it in the first place, and you make up excuses, and then the blame is pointed at me. It’s starting to sicken me.
“I don’t want to feel this way about boxing because I was once in love with it. It’s starting to make me rethink my career.’’
Second thoughts within a couple of weeks of a bout that could set up a career-defining fight add up to a red flag – a reason to worry.
“In my mind, this is an extremely dangerous fight,’’ DiBella said. “He has been preparing for a career-defining fight against Luis Ortiz — an unorthodox left-handed puncher — a guy that he was really mentally revved up to fight. Instead, he’s winding up with a rematch of a fight against Bermane Stiverne — a guy that’s been in this kind of situation before who’s a legitimate, dangerous heavyweight contender.
“Frankly, in this situation, Bermane Stiverne has absolutely nothing to lose. And he must feel like this is Christmas Day. He was already preparing for a large, right-handed opponent in (Dominic) Breazeale. He was going to be on that same card. It’s now switched over to a fight that you have to think maybe Deontay is a little bit deflated to be forced to fight. But Bermane is the mandatory contender, and that’s the fight that’s going to happen.’’
Amid it all, there is a back-and-forth discussion between Wilder’s camp and Joshua’s camp about a fight that some say could happen in 2018. Wilder is already saying he wants $7 million. Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn countered, saying that there was as much a chance of that as there was of Hearn augmenting his genitals. No telling where the tale of the tape is going on this one.
If the back-back weekend bouts go as expected, the respective crowds and Showtime’s television ratings for each will have a lot of say-so at the table. In terms of box-office, Joshua is already huge. His victory over Wladimir Klitschko at London’s Wembley Stadium in April drew a reported crowd of 90,000. The Takam bout (2 p.m. PT/5 p.m. ET) at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, is expected to draw between 75,000 and 80,000.
“Wilder hasn’t had any memorable fights,’’ said Joshua, whose ring cred was established when he got up from a sixth-round knockdown to stop Klitschko.
For Wilder, the memorable has only been a frustrating string of cancellations and substitutions. There’s also been fair criticism of his fundamental skill set, despite an unbeaten record fashioned by a right hand thrown with Thomas Hearns-like leverage.
Wilder says he’ll be watching Joshua-Takam Saturday, a week before he has to attend to his own business.
“The ultimate goal is get to Joshua,’’ he said.
Ultimately, it’s the only way to replace those doubts with a chance at something worthy of being memorable.
